there is a big income divide. affluent republicans say it is more important to reduce the deficit but poorer republicans, middle class and lower middle class republicans say no, no, protect our benefits. >> woodruff: and are these attitudes, andy, that have changed over time with all the attention that's now being give tone the size of the debt and the urgency of the problem. >> you know, people are willing to do a lot of things to reduce this deficit. the concern is at an all-time high but when it comes to entitlements, there's no movement. it really is rock solid when we see 2 to 1 margins. >> and again entitlements meaning social security. >> and even medicaid, having states raise -- make it -- reduce eligibility for medicaid, not 2 to 1 but a solid majority say no let's not do that. >> woodruff: naftali -- with public opinion aside, what sort of divide or is there one among the leadership in the democratic or republican parties between the rank and file. >> i think that is one of the most interesting dynamics